Debate is perhaps not the best term but a useful search tag for google to pick-up on, action is more likely a better route. Yet here below is recent material to help us focus and realise we need action and fast.
02:02 … Greenland ice loss id 8,500 tons per second… PER SECOND.
02:15 Half permanent arctic ice has gone.
09:20 How we will have to live and the 3 trillion that is half of what is present day subsidy to the fossil fuel industries that SHOULD be directed to carbon capture.
Author David Wallace-Wells in the above at 09:20 informs us that the IMF estimated world subsidy to traditional fossil fuel industries is approx 5.3 trillion annually; wheras a spend of 3 trillion could possibly completely neutrelise world carbon emission to zero by utilising carbon capture.
Here below is author David Wallace-Wells that when talking to scientists ‘off-the-record’ realised the disjoint between what scientists think and realise themselves and what is released to the public for general media / news consumption.
Most certainly as these immense rivers bigger than we westerners can visualise every minute every day supply vast quantities of warmed water onto the East Siberian ice shelf, the home of vast up to 20km deep stored carbon in oxygenless ie anaerobic conditions; the perfect laboratory for the production of vast amounts of methane as well as a catastrophic volume of methane ready to blow. The underwater ice cap itself has luckily sealed the methane, that is now going fast as it anywhere and everywhere on the circumpolar map of the Arctic where it shows white or pale blue, theres lots.
We should also realise the rivers Yenisey and the Kolyma.
Its a simple fact even a small portion of this impending methane release will destroy all CO2 conversion as we know it and us with it, last week at last a news story carried re ocean cloud formation and plankton (DMS) … to my mind too little reporting, too light ie no mention of the irony of diatom collapse (see where our oil and gas originated) and CO2 reduction quite futile. As in the link below the IPCC report is way off target (the usual plain underestimation / reduced easier to swallow figures misleadingly put forward) … but hey … why alarm anyone or Governments when we can trundle onwards with half a smile and half a conscience.
Mostly I know where we are going and this latest s/h windows 10 acquisition seems to thwart new or latest links. I cannot listen to Paul Beckwith now, only a briefer zippier presentation could hold my interest. Names I will still google for are Prof Kevin Anderson, Prof Peter Wadhams, Prof Paul Erlich, links in order below.
And below a screen capture and a link for Siberia, it is big, the biggest landmass and the shallowest iceshelf we could imagine. Yet who in the west until now thinks of the rivers Lena and the Ob? Note vast plumes of smoke from forest fires, zoom in to see the areas alight.
I honestly don’t think I’ll be sat here in ten years time, in 2029, its quite impossible; there is just no way basic laws and interactions of physics and chemistry can be thwarted.
A month ago (June 21st 2019) I blogged and drew attention to how nonsensical, silly and downright intentionally misleading was a Yale presentation on youtube telling us how insignificant and quite benign was the impending release of methane (in three forms ie frozen hydrate, microbial and geological) as the permafrost melts, as it is in fact doing right now quite happily in all shallow Arctic sea including the East Siberian Ice Shelf.
A motley crew indeed … its called ‘funding’ … pure and simple.
I’ve written this post energised by viewing today the vid below saying exactly as I do that basically the Yale presentation is garbage, staggering in its complacency and lack of knowledge; just a total and tragic disconnect from where we are at present.
I think I’m correct in saying that last years folly of the 2018 IPCC Report did not include Dr Peter Wadhams Arctic Ice material (world expert) and ignored impending methane release.
In the above attention is drawn to the misleading nature of the Yale Climate Connections presentation (02:00), the importance of the Russian work on methane release (14:00) and how Natalia Shakhova cannot get her work peer reviewed or published as her data indicates methane levels her reviewers do not want to read of !! Basically this is censorship.
Below is a good intro to the subject … Natalia Shakhova, Univ Alaska, Fairbanks.