Debate is perhaps not the best term but a useful search tag for google to pick-up on, action is more likely a better route. Yet here below is recent material to help us focus and realise we need action and fast.
02:02 … Greenland ice loss id 8,500 tons per second… PER SECOND.
02:15 Half permanent arctic ice has gone.
09:20 How we will have to live and the 3 trillion that is half of what is present day subsidy to the fossil fuel industries that SHOULD be directed to carbon capture.
Author David Wallace-Wells in the above at 09:20 informs us that the IMF estimated world subsidy to traditional fossil fuel industries is approx 5.3 trillion annually; wheras a spend of 3 trillion could possibly completely neutrelise world carbon emission to zero by utilising carbon capture.
Here below is author David Wallace-Wells that when talking to scientists ‘off-the-record’ realised the disjoint between what scientists think and realise themselves and what is released to the public for general media / news consumption.
I can read a text based post much quicker and is a more satisfying and efficient experience than listening to a fifteen minute recap of what I could read in a text format much quicker. Paul?
It is all irreversible, is by its own nature of interconnected climate change feedback loops irreversible. Who would have thought warming ‘dirt’ would be so dangerous!
Note also the demise of diatoms, a particular keen interest if mine; the gas DMS a product of diatoms and algae is fundamental to ocean cloud formation. We think ourselves so slick and clever but our lifestyles are anathema to this planet.
That in fact Donald J trump does in fact 100% agree climate change is well and truly altering this planet in his ludicrous desire to ‘buy’ Greenland. Its the same as his bizarre insistence on yet more ‘Border Wall’ when in fact sufficient exists already. trump is very much yesterdays man now but how long will the morally and ethically moribund Republicans shore him up, to prop a limp doll now totally irrelevant to the real world.
Instead of picking fights with the Chinese he should be thanking them for the huge profits generated in the West from buying from China as a low cost supplier.
trump is clueless utterly clueless, is fed just sufficient low brow notions and redundant glimpses of untruths from his backers to keep him dangling alive with a few pronouncements amid a whirring helicopter engine meanwhile behind closed doors the real destruction and roll-backs continue. All accusations trump has ever thrown at others are in fact applicable more accurately to himself, namely he IS the swamp.
Greenland proves trump knows fine well climate change is a huge vast engine of change that cannot be stopped. I write this post as unusually google / youtube is offering me better search results than usual ie reaching out of the Windows 10 bubble that is a restriction that arrived with this replacement stack a few months ago.
Below we are told Greenland has lost eleven billion tons of ice in one day and the sea worldwide rose half a millimetre in ONE DAY! Remember also that thermal expansion will raise ocean levels still further.
Note in the last two seconds of the vid below how all the river flow disappears down a hole to also erode and melt from below, as if Swiss cheese.
Most certainly as these immense rivers bigger than we westerners can visualise every minute every day supply vast quantities of warmed water onto the East Siberian ice shelf, the home of vast up to 20km deep stored carbon in oxygenless ie anaerobic conditions; the perfect laboratory for the production of vast amounts of methane as well as a catastrophic volume of methane ready to blow. The underwater ice cap itself has luckily sealed the methane, that is now going fast as it anywhere and everywhere on the circumpolar map of the Arctic where it shows white or pale blue, theres lots.
We should also realise the rivers Yenisey and the Kolyma.
Its a simple fact even a small portion of this impending methane release will destroy all CO2 conversion as we know it and us with it, last week at last a news story carried re ocean cloud formation and plankton (DMS) … to my mind too little reporting, too light ie no mention of the irony of diatom collapse (see where our oil and gas originated) and CO2 reduction quite futile. As in the link below the IPCC report is way off target (the usual plain underestimation / reduced easier to swallow figures misleadingly put forward) … but hey … why alarm anyone or Governments when we can trundle onwards with half a smile and half a conscience.
Mostly I know where we are going and this latest s/h windows 10 acquisition seems to thwart new or latest links. I cannot listen to Paul Beckwith now, only a briefer zippier presentation could hold my interest. Names I will still google for are Prof Kevin Anderson, Prof Peter Wadhams, Prof Paul Erlich, links in order below.
And below a screen capture and a link for Siberia, it is big, the biggest landmass and the shallowest iceshelf we could imagine. Yet who in the west until now thinks of the rivers Lena and the Ob? Note vast plumes of smoke from forest fires, zoom in to see the areas alight.
I honestly don’t think I’ll be sat here in ten years time, in 2029, its quite impossible; there is just no way basic laws and interactions of physics and chemistry can be thwarted.
A month ago (June 21st 2019) I blogged and drew attention to how nonsensical, silly and downright intentionally misleading was a Yale presentation on youtube telling us how insignificant and quite benign was the impending release of methane (in three forms ie frozen hydrate, microbial and geological) as the permafrost melts, as it is in fact doing right now quite happily in all shallow Arctic sea including the East Siberian Ice Shelf.
A motley crew indeed … its called ‘funding’ … pure and simple.
I’ve written this post energised by viewing today the vid below saying exactly as I do that basically the Yale presentation is garbage, staggering in its complacency and lack of knowledge; just a total and tragic disconnect from where we are at present.
I think I’m correct in saying that last years folly of the 2018 IPCC Report did not include Dr Peter Wadhams Arctic Ice material (world expert) and ignored impending methane release.
In the above attention is drawn to the misleading nature of the Yale Climate Connections presentation (02:00), the importance of the Russian work on methane release (14:00) and how Natalia Shakhova cannot get her work peer reviewed or published as her data indicates methane levels her reviewers do not want to read of !! Basically this is censorship.
Below is a good intro to the subject … Natalia Shakhova, Univ Alaska, Fairbanks.
The slowness, blindness and inaccuracy of the IPCC is astounding. I think I’m correct in saying didn’t include subsea methane release in their most recent ‘modelling’ (highly inaccurate anyway) and ignored melting Arctic ice. Lewis Carrol could have written the script. Levels that are in the short term are the levels that will destroy us, say x130 for methane; theres no medium or long term worth considering, we’ll not be here.
Anyways, 2C will come and go v quickly, better start thinking 3C plus, which of course means human life is teetering and gone. Think about it, feedback loops of enormous world encompassing comprehensivity, nature in the raw so to speak, grain production areas disabled, theres nowhere else it can be done, corporations had better get ‘superfood’ substitutes developed v quickly. Thank God I don’t live in a large centre of population, water distribution / delivery / pumping and sewage disposal will become so critical. And so on and so on …
So many pundits / governments / media voices seem to wish to project a false prediction that somehow or other 2 degrees C of warming will leave us all at a levelling off, when in fact the whole system of nature is now a frightening series of triggers and feedback loops revving up to go faster.
sea level rise
green growing things ‘go in reverse’ for CO2 conversion
algae / diatom crash the oceans die (witness diatom / bryozoan symbiosis ie coral reef.
The term permafrost always stuck in my mind from my UK secondary school teacher Mr Lowes, as if he knew its importance, he probably did. This practical hands-on in your face geography, knowledge and recognition of landscape is a trillion miles in every respect from climate deniers and principally trump and his dastardly callous refusal to ‘get real’ to acknowledge and act accordingly. Its as if ‘act accordingly’ is something singularly missing in the trump gene pool. To ban the use of ‘climate change’ from USA science is a crime, a war crime. Likewise all his hangers-on and sycophants are aiding and abetting his crooked regime, they help no-one whatsoever, blood ties for so many at the top or feeding influence and outlook to an already skewed mentality is a recipe for disaster. As with journeying to the North and knowing of thawing permafrost, the only trips trump takes in his excruciatingly expensive motorcade are the many times built landscape, prestige thoroughfares. Ironic, a reality star (…only in his own mind) yet as far from reality as any hood or crook or bent lawyer that ever existed in the green pastures and open vistas of New York.
Never mind, all things trump WILL come to an end. Yet in the meantime the USA has minimal Diplomatic presence in the world, is reduced to a laughing stock; its medical care for ordinary citizens much reduced, environment and workers rights again much diminished, trade and trust all much eroded and no-one will ever confer or ask trump of his opinion on anything.
trump will be removed as if a malignant stump; a conman, a paste board sham.